Persuasion 218 | Real Relationships, with Rachel Pieh Jones


No man—or woman—is an island, as the saying goes. That’s because we were made to live together, in community. The strength and benefits we derive from others is incalculable. But that doesn’t mean it’s always easy. Our connections are with a diverse array of people with unique perspectives, ideals, and opinions, making our communities ripe for discord. It takes concerted effort to show up with our whole selves despite our differences.

In this episode of Persuasion, Erin Straza and Hannah Anderson dig into the summer miniseries called Showing Up. Each episode explores the challenges we face to show up in the world. Erin and Hannah invite Rachel Pieh Jones to help us learn how to show up in relationship despite our differences. Since 2004, Rachel has lived-in Djibouti, a primarily Muslim country, where she and her husband run a school and where they enjoy cross-cultural, cross-religious relationships. Rachel shares from her recent release titled Pillars: How Muslim Friends Led Me Closer to Jesus. The conversation covers a whole host of topics related to developing strong relationships by showing up with your whole self—differing beliefs and all. Is it possible to cultivate mutually beneficial relationships with people of other faiths? How do we avoid making people evangelistic projects? What can we do to show up and be present in spaces where we our beliefs and ideals are not held by the majority? Listen in for dialogue on questions like these as we learn how to show up together.  Then continue the conversation on Twitter @PersuasionCAPC or in the CAPC members-only community on Facebook.



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Pillars: How Muslim Friends Led Me Closer to Jesus by Rachel Pieh Jones

Rachel Pieh Jones

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